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Youth Deer hunting whats your thoughts?

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by WSWAT , Posted to Fishing Buddy on 09/23/2010 09:39 AM | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

WSWAT

Joined: 02/06/2003
Location: ND

What does everyone on here think about the way the youth hunting is set up?
1 .Perfect the way it is?

2 .Do you think it sends the right message to have these kids go out when the bucks are still in there summer pattern and easier to shoot?

3.Do you think all kids should get a doe tag first?

4.Maybe youth season should be open the week before regular rifle season?

Me personally I would think that if you shoot the biggest baddest buck on the block your first year that it would be tough to go up from there.
Maybe not?
When I first started hunting the youth tag was a doe and I was so excited for that.
Even though I don't shoot does now it was a great stepping stone process.
Lets hear your thoughts.

LONGBEARD LYNCH MOB
You may find their sheds! But I'll shoot them dead!

Re: Youth Deer hunting whats your thoughts?

by Grizzly Bear on 09/23/2010 09:46 AM | Reply #1 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Grizzly Bear
Joined: 03/11/2006
Location: ND

I think it has been a work in progress that is very solid at this point. Being able to shoot doe's at age 12 & 13 is awesome. I also don't mind the early youth season - kids today get board very quickly. If they can put something sizeable on the wall, they may very well be hooked for life. Rather than going out and freezing, maybe seeing or not seeing anything - they can lose their patience rather quickly. I say leave it the way it is as my 2 cents.

Re: Youth Deer hunting whats your thoughts?

by murdock1978 on 09/23/2010 09:47 AM | Reply #2 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

murdock1978
Joined: 07/12/2003
Location: ND

Wish there was more youths hunting the early season.doesn't bother me if the shoot a buck or doe.

Re: Youth Deer hunting whats your thoughts?

by hunter292 on 09/23/2010 09:47 AM | Reply #3 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

hunter292
Joined: 01/08/2002
Location: ND

I like what thet started last year with 12 and 13 year old doe tags, what a great chance for those beginging hunters. As far as shooting bucks when they are still in the summer patterns and being to easy, maybe we shouldn,t have rifle season over the rut, because it makes it to easy. I think they should keep the youth season the way it is and make sure the youth hunters have a positive experance, because they are the future of the outdoors.

hunter292

Re: Youth Deer hunting whats your thoughts?

by goosehunter90 on 09/23/2010 09:49 AM | Reply #4 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

goosehunter90
Joined: 05/31/2003
Location: ND

I had the privilage to take my 13 year old brother out for the youth season this year and he was so pumped when he shot a doe and i think that is all it takes for the youngsters to get hooked on hunting. In my mind it works out good (time wise) for the season to be early because there are no other major seasons going on during that time so you dont have to worry about other people all over the place. Its just a good time to be out and teach them without being bothered a whole lot by other hunters. IMO

Re: Youth Deer hunting whats your thoughts?

by WSWAT on 09/23/2010 09:49 AM | Reply #5 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

WSWAT
Joined: 02/06/2003
Location: ND

Thats a good point! Kids now days are all about instint results and do give up quickly.

LONGBEARD LYNCH MOB
You may find their sheds! But I'll shoot them dead!

Re: Youth Deer hunting whats your thoughts?

by whitetailhunter on 09/23/2010 09:54 AM | Reply #6 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

whitetailhunter
Joined: 12/17/2003
Location: ND

WSWAT Said:
What does everyone on here think about the way the youth hunting is set up?
1 .Perfect the way it is?

2 .Do you think it sends the right message to have these kids go out when the bucks are still in there summer pattern and easier to shoot?

3.Do you think all kids should get a doe tag first?

4.Maybe youth season should be open the week before regular rifle season?

Me personally I would think that if you shoot the biggest baddest buck on the block your first year that it would be tough to go up from there.
Maybe not?
When I first started hunting the youth tag was a doe and I was so excited for that.
Even though I don't shoot does now it was a great stepping stone process.
Lets hear your thoughts.

Why don't you shoot does now?

Re: Youth Deer hunting whats your thoughts?

by WSWAT on 09/23/2010 09:57 AM | Reply #7 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

WSWAT
Joined: 02/06/2003
Location: ND

In my area the deer numbers were hurt so badly from the winters that I'm hoping the more does out there the better for the future. There were dead deer everywhere really sad thing to see.

LONGBEARD LYNCH MOB
You may find their sheds! But I'll shoot them dead!

Re: Youth Deer hunting whats your thoughts?

by iwhackedwheat on 09/23/2010 09:58 AM | Reply #8 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

iwhackedwheat
Joined: 10/04/2002
Location: ND

I wrote the following 4 years ago on the same topic. I guess I still feel the same.

I missed the first youth hunt in ND by one year I think. Im glad I did. Before I was of age, I looked forward to the November hunt with friends and family that did hunt. I voluntarily got doe tags my first two years. I didnt want the pressure of having to shoot a buck with the deer numbers back then. I know there were still alot of deer but with the ammount of tags being almost double what they were then, there is definitely a higher population now. My dad doesnt hunt so I knew my opportunities would be limited (tagging along with friends and extended family.) Im all for getting youth into hunting and im not worried about them shooting "my" big bucks. I dont own any big bucks and still havent managed to shoot one. My question about it is-Have we lost any hunters because they shot a trophy during youth season? At that stage of life, competition is a big part, athletics, grades etc. If a kid shoots a trophy in a season designed to make it easier for them, will he/she lose interest if that feat cant be matched in the next few years? I dont have a problem with a kid shooting a nice buck in their first years during regular season, but I think they'd respect the sport more if they waited a few years for the opportunity. Just my opinion and the way I chose to do things. And yes Im hooked.

Re: Youth Deer hunting whats your thoughts?

by Tim Sandstrom on 09/23/2010 09:58 AM | Reply #9 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Tim Sandstrom
Joined: 07/14/2003
Location: ND

It is one of those deals. For a long time I couldn't understand why people would care but seeing the result of a youth hunter this year it broke my heart and a few other's hearts. A true monarch was dropped that was hunted hard last year, watched and hunted again this year by a friend. His hunt is over as the kid now has a once in life time deer.

But to separate my emotions from the situation that kid hopefully will be hooked for life. We need the youth doing the outdoors instead of doing drugs. Yeah, I know, a common phrase but it is the truth. Too much video games, etc.

It is a good time to have a relaxed atmosphere for the youth. Much more controlled and well, the results speak for themselves from doe that get shot to the bucks that get taken. So while I understand some of the "issue" I too think it is a good season and good for North Dakota. I guess if I wanted that buck I should have sealed the deal last muzzleloader and late bow season!

Thought I seasoned up that buck a little more though...the big boy made a very bad mistake on last Sunday! Don't think he was expecting a youth hunter! Ha ha!

Re: Youth Deer hunting whats your thoughts?

by walynut on 09/23/2010 10:01 AM | Reply #10 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

walynut
Joined: 01/08/2003
Location: ND

I think it is fine the way it is and I would in NO way change the dates. My wife was ruined her first year as a youth hunting in the MT winter and voweled never to go hunting again, mostly due to the extremes that she was forced to hunt (shame on dad IMHO-he said he regrets it).

As for the buck/doe issue. I dont have a problem with it, my son is doing the youth season currently with an "any" tag. Last night we made it out and saw 8 deer, all does, with two of them being fawns. He had a shot, 50 yd broadside standing still on both the fawns, he didn't pull the trigger. I asked him why he didn't and he said not enough meat on them and not really a "challenge" that close. I was THRILLED with his answer and I know that my son has it together! He is looking at the meat, not the horns and he is looking for a challenge also.

I talked to another young man on his first hunt and he was strictly looking for a buck and I will quote him "shooting does are for girls". Where do you think get this kids information from.........very sad IMHO.

As a hunter education instrutor for nearly the last ten years, I have seen how the parents influnce there children; for the most part kids dont care what they are shooting at but it matters more to the parents taking them out.

Sorry about that, a little off subject!

I would say leave the season as it is, with 12-13 YO now allowed to get doe tags and the 14-15YO allowed to get a "any" tag.

Good Luck and Good Fishin'

Eric T

Re: Youth Deer hunting whats your thoughts?

by Tim Sandstrom on 09/23/2010 10:03 AM | Reply #11 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Tim Sandstrom
Joined: 07/14/2003
Location: ND

iwhackedwheat,

For most, I don't think so. The parents or mentors of any youth hunter should be explaining the birds and the bees of hunting. If a kid kills a monster then he or she should be told they are very fortunate. People hunt their whole entire lives and never get to see a true giant in their crosshairs.

So while I get your point, I think they are so young that they don't quite know what they got. Of course, that all depends on maturity, etc. I do believe the best thing to do is start kids out with some doe hunting. That's how I was brought up (although, I didn't get a youth tag...heh, heh). Seriously though, hunting is a challenge to the young. It takes some maturity to know how to swing a rifle, when to shoot safely, etc. Plus to deal with the death of an animal. Does are plentiful and offer some good learning. But if one of them fortunate youth hunters takes a buck of a lifetime, well, good for them. I just hope they realize they probably will never shoot anything equivalent again and to not get discouraged.

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by goosehunter90 on 09/23/2010 10:04 AM | Reply #12 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

goosehunter90
Joined: 05/31/2003
Location: ND

I believe that there is more things to it then just a big buck. When i think back to my first year tagging along with my dad deer hunting i remember the experience not the size of the deer. For the fact of shooting a big buck the first year and loosing interest i dont know if that would be true i have never seen a deer shot by a kid that wouldn't be able to shoot a bigger one in their life around here. If anything it will give them more motivation to hunt harder to beat previous bucks.

Re: Youth Deer hunting whats your thoughts?

by WSWAT on 09/23/2010 10:05 AM | Reply #13 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

WSWAT
Joined: 02/06/2003
Location: ND

WOW. Good discussion so far!

LONGBEARD LYNCH MOB
You may find their sheds! But I'll shoot them dead!

Re: Youth Deer hunting whats your thoughts?

by Tim Sandstrom on 09/23/2010 10:08 AM | Reply #14 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Tim Sandstrom
Joined: 07/14/2003
Location: ND

walynut Said:
I talked to another young man on his first hunt and he was strictly looking for a buck and I will quote him "shooting does are for girls". Where do you think get this kids information from.........very sad IMHO.

As a hunter education instrutor for nearly the last ten years, I have seen how the parents influnce there children; for the most part kids dont care what they are shooting at but it matters more to the parents taking them out.

Sorry about that, a little off subject!

I would say leave the season as it is, with 12-13 YO now allowed to get doe tags and the 14-15YO allowed to get a "any" tag.

Yup, like I said while you posted and I was typing the mentor or parent should not be warping the kid's minds. Hunting is a life progression. I started out whacking anything that ran or flew (with the legal limits of course). Now I go about things a little different where i like to extend my hunts. Soon I will probably be just the guy walking along with a camera.

Point being, hunting is a life progression and the kids out there need to be brought up the right way. I think they can whether they shoot a doe or a buck for their first deer but I will say it again, I think doe hunting is something they need to be taught is necessary and the furthest thing from being "girly."

Re: Youth Deer hunting whats your thoughts?

by dukgnfsn on 09/23/2010 10:09 AM | Reply #15 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

dukgnfsn
Joined: 09/05/2006
Location: ND

I also think the youth season is a great thing, what I would like to see is keep the early season, but if you are hunting the early season it would be doe only, if you choose to hunt for a buck that is done during the regular gun season. I feel that the first deer should be about the harvest and not how big the horns. With this in place they still have a option to hunt a buck but also learn what true hunting is about. I know a few who shot a big buck with ease during youth season and the next year had to hunt during the regular season and said they didn't want to hunt anymore because it wasn't like the first year. This is just my opinion.

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