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A Good christmas story from Williston

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There are a lot of good ND born resdent that live in Williston and it shows on a holidays.   I have meant a few folks that attend the First Lutheran Church, 916 Main St.

Fine people and believe in helping thier fellow man.
This quote pretty well somes it up.  No need for a class war in ND by a few.
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There’s families here, and they try to make it as normal as possible,” said Holly Kuchenbecker, manager of Fox Run RV park. “They have a Christmas tree in their house, you know. We’re not weird! We’re just common folk trying to recoup our lives that we lost when the economy went to hell.”
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Homeless for the holidays: Newcomers embrace traditions, seek normalcy this Christmas
 

By Daniel Woods
Williston Herald
Published/Last Modified on Saturday, December 24, 2011 11:56 AM CST


Dan Gimmaka, of Seattle, Wash., left, and Chad King, of Spokane, Wash., right, arrived in Williston a week ago. After a promising start, a construction job fell through, and now they said they’re going to live in their van and wait until the new year when they think hiring will pick up again. “In case anyone reads this and wants a to put a couple hard workers to work,” Gimmaka said, his phone number is 206-369-7985. Daniel Woods | Williston Herald

 
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Christmas is Christmas. Everyone is making the best of it, with family or apart. Some, such as the Pickens clan, are happy right where they are, living in a recreational vehicle north of Williston.

“Just because you have to live in an RV park, like what we’re living, I mean, I’m not homeless. I don’t consider myself homeless,” said Ed Pickens, a truck driver living with his family in Fox Run RV park. “I’m staying right here. I’m enjoying the season in the RV camp.

Pickens’ two children, Maddie, 10, and Connor, 8, both said they are excited for Christmas. They have a small Christmas tree set up in their bedroom, and they said they have already received some presents.

“There’s families here, and they try to make it as normal as possible,” said Holly Kuchenbecker, manager of Fox Run RV park. “They have a Christmas tree in their house, you know. We’re not weird! We’re just common folk trying to recoup our lives that we lost when the economy went to hell.”

Others have made their way to Williston leaving families behind for the time being. Dan Gimmaka, of Seattle, Wash., and Chad King, of Spokane, Wash., made it to Williston a week ago with about $100 to spare.

“It sucks not being with my family,” Gimmaka said.

They found work almost immediately, but it fell through, King said. They had moved briefly from the van they were living in into an employer-provided trailer, but, for now, they’re back in the van.

“We’re living in that big grey thing,” Gimmaka said. “It’s actually not too bad.”

They said they think the hiring managers are home for Christmas, and they are hoping to find a good wage in January when they think hiring will pick back up. Until then, they are planning to wait and “survive.”

“We came here to strike it rich,” Gimmaka said.

“And we’re striking out,” King added.

They said they will be attending the annual free Christmas dinner provided by First Lutheran Church in conjunction with Banquet West, which offers free Sunday dinners at First Lutheran Church, 916 Main St.

“We’ve been doing Christmas Dinner since way back when. It’s always been a free community dinner,” said First Lutheran Pastor Martin Mock.

The free meal will be from 1-3 p.m. on Christmas Day.

“We have a lot of people here who have nowhere to go,” Mock said. “They’re a long ways away from family, so are you going to sit somewhere alone on this day when we’re, we’re talking about, that God so loved the world that he gave His only son? Well, good, God did that, now, go, go away? Or are we going to feed you? Are we going to provide a place to come where it’s warm, we’re we’ll get you good food?

Some might be wondering how good the food is. Mock says it is very good.

“I mean, we have good food. Oh, it’s ham, it’s turkey. I mean, it’s all the trimmings. I mean, it’s just like, you know, a regular holiday meal. They’ll make pies. . . it’s good!”

The Tolliver family, who arrived three weeks ago from Knoxville, Tenn., have decorated the inside of their trailer with paper snowflakes and snowmen.

“We hung up snowflakes with the kids and cut out snowmen,” said April Tolliver. “Don’t have a tree because there’s five of us, well, seven of us, five kids. We’re going to cook a Christmas dinner like we always do, and sit down and have dinner.”

There is also reportedly a surprise in store for the five Tolliver boys.

“They’re hiding it from us, and they told us it’s a surprise but I hate having to wait. We hate having to wait to see what the secret is,” said Ethan Tolliver, 9, his voice drowned out in the excited talking of the other boys.

Even 1-year-old Israel Tolliver was peppering the conversation with enthusiastic baby talk.

Unlike others here, who have been enjoying the mild winter, the Tolliver boys have been hoping for snow.

“We don’t get much snow back in Tennessee where we live,” said Preston Tolliver, 11.

With or without snow, with or without family, with or without work, in Williston everyone is trying to make the best of season.

“Our goal is, number one, community,” Mock said. “I mean, isn’t that what it’s all about?”
 
 
Re: A Good christmas story from Williston
by on 12/25/2011 7:11 PM | Reply #1 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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Re: A Good christmas story from Williston
by on 12/26/2011 01:48 AM | Reply #2 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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I was present at my church event xmas morning, as I am every year here in Williston.  There was also a LA times reporter present taking pictures of the 9 black people who showed up.  Never have I seen a black person inside our church in all my life.  As soon as they decide to put an ad in the Herald for a free dinner, we get 9 of them. Honestly, I was not too wild about several of the younger blacks blatantly checking out my wife, but this is just another day in Williston to be honest.  One had Missouri plates and his jeep had rubbermaid tubs ratchet strapped to the top.   He and several others were clearly slick talkin', hustler types who just follow the money.  Gold teeth, fubu and the whole 9 yards.

I talked with several other middle aged white guys who I didn't recognize.  One from Lexington Kentucky and another from Vegas were very plesant fellows.  I have no problem with some honest, hard working people such as them and gave them contacts for employment options.  

Welcome to Williston.
Re: A Good christmas story from Williston
by on 12/26/2011 06:35 AM | Reply #3 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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so did you talk to any of the blacks? or did you just sit back and assume that since they were black they were gonna rob you and then assault your wife?  i love it...  you spout off about how you "were present at your churches event like you are every year"  like it makes you some kind of saint or something.... then you start complaining about  black people showing up.....  last time i checked God wasn't racist and if your church is putting on a FREE meal for everyone to partake in then why shouldn't thes "young black men" get to join in?  The Rubbermade totes that were strapped to the guys roof were probably every last thing that the guy owns... i love it when people complain about all the "oilfield trash" on this site....  one thing that all the complainers forget to realize is that for every 1 piece of "oilfield trash" that comes to north dakota to work, thats one less person and or family that our tax dollars have to pay to support. be thankful that these folks are willing to come up here to work, because they could just be like the rest of the country and give up and say screw it, i'm gonna go be part of the 99% that thinks everything should be given to me...  sorry just my $.02

Never argue with an idiot.... they'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

Re: A Good christmas story from Williston
by on 12/26/2011 08:41 AM | Reply #4 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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Location: Mo
El Superbeasto Said:
I was present at my church event xmas morning, as I am every year here in Williston.  There was also a LA times reporter present taking pictures of the 9 black people who showed up.  Never have I seen a black person inside our church in all my life.  As soon as they decide to put an ad in the Herald for a free dinner, we get 9 of them. Honestly, I was not too wild about several of the younger blacks blatantly checking out my wife, but this is just another day in Williston to be honest.  One had Missouri plates and his jeep had rubbermaid tubs ratchet strapped to the top.   He and several others were clearly slick talkin', hustler types who just follow the money.  Gold teeth, fubu and the whole 9 yards.

I talked with several other middle aged white guys who I didn't recognize.  One from Lexington Kentucky and another from Vegas were very plesant fellows.  I have no problem with some honest, hard working people such as them and gave them contacts for employment options.  

Welcome to Williston.

You are a good fiction writter.  In your next post will you be burning a cross in the parking lot.

 You didn't know black people went to church?   What church was this in?  
 
Re: A Good christmas story from Williston
by on 12/26/2011 09:45 AM | Reply #5 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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Location: ND
 Yeah...great story and all.  
 

It doesn't, however, erase the fact that the crime rate from these same "people" have turned the oil-basin into the new stomping ground for the lowlifes that have infested the area.

You keep saying "it's not everyone", "not all are bad" , and posting nice happenings. 

But I don't get it--?  There were always happy stories from that area.  There weren't, however the stories of a jacked up crime rate -- one that was not there before. 

So I guess, for any defenders of the "immigrants", how do you explain the difference with how it was before the oil boom--to now?

Oh..now I remember.  The original, lifelong residents had a closed door meeting, and decided to start tearing the town apart, and pin it on the oilfield workers.   
 
 
Re: A Good christmas story from Williston
by on 12/26/2011 09:52 AM | Reply #6 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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mauserG33-40 Said:

This quote pretty well somes it up.  No need for a class war in ND by a few.

No...the crime rate sums it up.  Not a single warm fuzzy story of a turkey on Christmas day. 

I'm sure if you looked, you could find something nice that took place within the confines of the Hussein or Hitler regimes, or in the midst of a Somalian neighborhood where they are launching molotov cocktails at each other on a daily basis.  But it doesn't "sum it"  LOL.  It's called "an exception to the rule".

You're welcome.  


Re: A Good christmas story from Williston
by on 12/26/2011 09:59 AM | Reply #7 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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DId anyone else post the story of the guy from Aspen? And how he was arrested already fortaking a leak on the strip club building?? He had been in williston a total of 2 days
 
Re: A Good christmas story from Williston
by on 12/26/2011 10:35 AM | Reply #8 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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WellArmed Said:
 Yeah...great story and all.  
 


But I don't get it--?  There were always happy stories from that area.  There weren't, however the stories of a jacked up crime rate -- one that was not there before. 

 
Were there any prisons in ND before the oil boom?   Was any one arrested in Williston before the oil boom?   I hauled cattle out of Williston on a weekly bases in the mid 70"s and 80's and there was plenty of drunks on the streets after closing time at the bars.  I'll be back in Feb for a few months again just like in the past,most folks there are much different than how they are described on FBO.  BTW who ownes the strip bars in town out of staters??

Are you calling US citizens immigrants??             

"So I guess, for any defenders of the "immigrants", how do you explain the difference with how it was before the oil boom--to now?"    Very simple oil companies with a drill rig count of around 190 and the support companies not being able to hire enough local help.    It will never be the same as it was.


 
Re: A Good christmas story from Williston
by on 12/26/2011 10:55 AM | Reply #9 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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mauserG33-40 Said:
WellArmed Said:
 Yeah...great story and all.  
 


But I don't get it--?  There were always happy stories from that area.  There weren't, however the stories of a jacked up crime rate -- one that was not there before. 

 
Were there any prisons in ND before the oil boom?   Was any one arrested in Williston before the oil boom?   I hauled cattle out of Williston on a weekly bases in the mid 70"s and 80's and there was plenty of drunks on the streets after closing time at the bars.  I'll be back in Feb for a few months again just like in the past,most folks there are much different than how they are described on FBO.  BTW who ownes the strip bars in town out of staters??

Are you calling US citizens immigrants??             

"So I guess, for any defenders of the "immigrants", how do you explain the difference with how it was before the oil boom--to now?"    Very simple oil companies with a drill rig count of around 190 and the support companies not being able to hire enough local help.    It will never be the same as it was.



Mauser, Yes, there are good and bad in this state, and there were good and bad in this state PRE oil boom, however, the crime rates that are on the increase, are more than likely not to do with Nodaks, but instead probably deal with out of staters. It's the sad truth. I myself know more than a few terrible ND citizens that should just be shot on spot because they are worthless, and they are in prison. There are alot of good people coming to this state, and one BAD out of stater screws it up for the rest of them. As for the guy from Aspen, I was merely pointing out that other states should not be unloading their problems on other states, as it went to show since he was arrested, and wasnt even in our state for 48 hours!!!
 
Re: A Good christmas story from Williston
by on 12/26/2011 11:13 AM | Reply #10 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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taylorman_55 Said:
. As for the guy from Aspen, I was merely pointing out that other states should not be unloading their problems on other states, as it went to show since he was arrested, and wasnt even in our state for 48 hours!!!
There is no dought this type of thing no matter what state it happens in is uncalled for.  Whats amazing is the fact this guy got off the bus in Williston did a complete stupid thing and it is on the front page of many papers. Now a truck driver,heavy equipment operator or ect gets off the bus  goes to work and obeys the laws in never even metioned there has been many.



 
Re: A Good christmas story from Williston
by on 12/26/2011 12:14 PM | Reply #11 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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Yes, I said merry xmas to an older black man sitting by himself.  He was dressed very well, seemed kind, and replied "merry xmas to you brother".  The rest of them were in groups with some other 'creatures of the oilfield' and were getting interviewed by the LA times reporter.   Sorry, but I opted to keep my family and myself away from them.

Guess I didn't realize I was "spouting off" about being present at 1st Lutheran's annual xmass dinner?  It's the church I was born and raised in.  Check out the 01' confirmation picture in the binder up front in the main church -i'm present in the back row you chicken shit Mauser.

 I believe my point was very apparent by my first post. We had very few of these types in previous years.  However, once a FREE meal is advertised, they come by the car full.  

Thanks for your concern Morpheous, but them "robbing me and assaulting my wife" at a free xmas dinner was really not really high on my radar.  They were there to freeload and thats about it.  I'm 6'3" 240 and have delt with them in  college athletics and at previous occupations, it's not really an issue.  However, I've witnessed blacks try take advantage of situations where you thought there was no threat many times in my life.  Don't ever let your guard down sucker.



Morpheus Said:

so did you talk to any of the blacks? or did you just sit back and assume that since they were black they were gonna rob you and then assault your wife?  i love it...  you spout off about how you "were present at your churches event like you are every year"  like it makes you some kind of saint or something.... then you start complaining about  black people showing up.....  last time i checked God wasn't racist and if your church is putting on a FREE meal for everyone to partake in then why shouldn't thes "young black men" get to join in?  The Rubbermade totes that were strapped to the guys roof were probably every last thing that the guy owns... i love it when people complain about all the "oilfield trash" on this site....  one thing that all the complainers forget to realize is that for every 1 piece of "oilfield trash" that comes to north dakota to work, thats one less person and or family that our tax dollars have to pay to support. be thankful that these folks are willing to come up here to work, because they could just be like the rest of the country and give up and say screw it, i'm gonna go be part of the 99% that thinks everything should be given to me...  sorry just my $.02


Re: A Good christmas story from Williston
by on 12/26/2011 12:54 PM | Reply #12 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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Went back and read a few of your posts El super,seems like every where you go somebody is checking out your sister,half sister or your wife*?what's up with that!!just wondering??
Re: A Good christmas story from Williston
by on 12/26/2011 1:00 PM | Reply #13 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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He must have married up,  by a lot.

One Big Ass Mistake America !

Re: A Good christmas story from Williston
by on 12/26/2011 1:46 PM | Reply #14 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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WHAT UP.....THE CEILING AND IF YOU GO OUTSIDE THE SKY IS UP. I CANT STAND THAT EBONICS FROM THE THE GETTO....I HAVE 3 BROTHERS AND THEY ALL  TALK THAT CRAP....AS FOR THE BROTHERS FROM ANOUTHERS, FROM THE CHURCH...WELL ID TAKE A FREE MEAL 2....AND YES BE SAFE, THEY WILL ROB YOU.....JUST LIKE A WHITE GUY WOULD ROB YOU 2....TRUTH BE TOLD....
Re: A Good christmas story from Williston
by on 12/26/2011 2:34 PM | Reply #15 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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Location: ND
+1 for that.  My wife is definitely way out of my league.  
dieseldog Said:
He must have married up,  by a lot.

Murdock, If you are not familiar with Williston and the demographics I would do some research, google it man.  Man to woman ration about 200:1.  I don't know a single man with an attractive woman out here who will let her go alone to wal-mart or most places unless accompanied.  This was a big factor for my half sister's mother to remove her from Williston to s. MN.  

It's blatant stare your wife/girl up and down multiple times, with you by their side.  Turn around to check your surroundings and groups of men are staring at her ass.  Slamming on the brakes in parking lots and turning around to stare for inappropriate lengths of time, with you walking next to them.  The BLACKS and BROWNS are much worse... Most of them seem to have no decency and won't turn away or try be respectful one bit.   One word sums them up:  Predatory. 

We meet other couples at JW's bar and grill occasionally but after 9 we leave.  She will be at a table with 2-3 other couples, as soon as you get up to take a piss, some creature is approaching her trying to slide her a drink or lay some lines down.  

It appears none of you understand what is going on out here.  You try discredit my life experiences by getting butt-hurt when I talk about racial issues, but I'm giving you the TRUTH, like it or not.  Lets deal with it how our grandparents would have delt with it and not pretend to be egalitarians. 

I'm sorry if some reading this think it's fiction, unfortunately not everyone simply lies and talks a bunch of BS on here (mauser).
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